AfterParty Answers: Can I Smoke Kratom or Spice in Sobriety?

AfterParty Answers: Can I Smoke Kratom or Spice in Sobriety?


AfterPartyOver here at AfterParty, we receive an onslaught of questions from people about addiction and recovery. And well, our new video series AfterParty Answers gives us an opportunity to address them. In this episode, Anna David and Danielle Stewart reach into the AfterParty archives to answer a reader’s question about smoking kratom or spice in sobriety.

So what is this kratom and spice and salvia we speak of? Well, they’re herbs that fall within legal loopholes because they’re not categorized as drugs, even though they can get you off your head.

Salvia’s best PR agent may be Miley Cyrus, who was caught on camera allegedly smoking a bit of the stuff and then delving into a half terrifying, half thrilling head space where she thought a guy really looked a lot like her boyfriend Liam Hemsworth (lucky guy). (Our own Johnny Plankton, meanwhile, may not be partying in the USA with Miley on this one, as he thinks salvia sounds like the least fun drug in the world.)

As for kratom, well, we recently wrote about how it’s labeled a “drug of concern” but not a controlled substance and how there are now many people out there quite concerned with it, including a woman who blames it for her son’s suicide and another who says she relapsed as a result of it.

And then there’s good old spice, which we wrote about when the governor of New Hampshire declared a state of emergency last when more than 40 people there overdosed from smoking it.

If you want a quick answer, well, these herbs are dangerous as fuck. For a longer one, check out out this vid. While we aren’t in any way medical professions (emphasis on “aren’t in any way medical professionals”), we are sober folks who have not only grappled with some of the issues being asked about but have also written scads of articles for this very site on them. So here we are presenting our answers to you in our video series AfterParty Answers. Tune in every Wednesday to see what you, our faithful readers, want to know.

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1 Comment

  1. A drug is a drug is a drug; and kratom is a drug. This issue in recovery in my mind is not whether or not a drug is legal, but is it mind altering or mood changing. The issues for recovering addicts should be what does it do to me, not whether or not it is legal or not.

    There is a drug mixture of kratom and an active metabolite of Tramadol called O-DSMT (O-desmethyltramadol) called krypton (yes krypton) where there has been some reports of overdoses. Even pro-kratom sites are warning against krypton.

    There are a couple of articles I’ve written that mention kratom and synthetic marijuana: “Krypton Can Kill You” and “Gone Wild.”

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